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Oh darn! I’m wrong! Please be sure to include in your downloads the Wikipedia and Wikipedia Travel Guide information. These very we’ll might have some of the information you would need! So sorry!
Dear ptutt,
I am a PE user, not one of the developers. But I think I can give an at least partial answer.
PE uses Open Sreet Map data for its maps. This is a project created by volunteers all over the world, adding data as they can. Coverage will vary, just as it does with any mapping application. I also have seen that, for one reason or another, coverage of Turkey is not as good as we might hope.
But no, a PE map is “the” map, and there is nothing else to download. Perhaps you could join Open Sreet M ap and help the community add information? I’ve a tiny bit!
Yours,
Bucky EdgettI’m very sorry to come so late to the conversation, but just in case someone else happens to read this…
As usual, jsgblom has come to the rescue! But here’s another small tip. Add “kml kmz” to your search term. In addition to “gpx.”
Pocket Earth cannot import kmz or kml files, they are a proprietary format that requires an expensive license to use. BUT…if you find a file in one of those formats, you can go to http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert_input and have it convert the kml/kmz file to a gpx! Neato!
And, pay attention to the foot ways/cycle paths that may be included in the PE maps. The Open Street Map data used in PE often has a myriad of “paths” indicated by brown dashed lines. The amount of such paths varies by location (France maps are excellent) but if there are such included, they might or might not be more accurate than a user-created track.
Loie and I have been lead astray once or twice by downloaded tracks, so also pay attention to the Map! ;^)
Yours,
Bucky EdgettHope the developers don’t mind my butting in to a finished issue with a question. How does/can Apple not allow PE to export a Map Data backup to my computer? (I can see them not allowing multigigabytes being put in their cloud, but to my own machine?)
I’m just a fascinated buttinski geek!
Yours,
Bucky EdgettI think there may be another thread on “adjusting route line colors” in order to not obscure road/street names and route numbers. If so, please point me to it! But I’ll start here, and ask if, instead of adjusting route line colors, it would be possible to put names/numbers on an overlay layer, above the route line. That is, layers:
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Curb lines
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Route line
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Street/road names & route number plaques.
Of course this ordering/layering would be baked in and not a Map Layer adjustable by the user. I hope this is clear!
Bucky Edgett
Sorry to have been so long at this. Have been trying to get my old map data re-downloaded into the Beta but it just took too long.
However, with all my Favorites imported (20,000-some) I can now use the Search All function in the Beta (2.6.2, latest iteration.) That’s marvelous!
I am currently recreating my PE Pro in PE beta v2.6.2b1. I successfully Imported my latest archive but it’s taking forever to get Map Data. Will have to do that during my ISP’s Extra Time late nights. When that is done, I’ll test!
(There really, really, should be a way to export/save Maps the way we can POIs/PINs/Tracks/etc. ! But that’s another Request!)
OK, looking forward to torture testing the next release! I do still have a “large number of Pins” in my current PE Pro. No idea if my Large # of Pins has caused/influenced my crash while trying to use the Universal Search. Will report back soon!
Has this been addressed? Immediate crash for me, iPad 2, iOS 7.1.
@Terry Hunefeld
Dear Terry,
You know, I’m such an offline fanatic it never occurred to me to store PE backups in the cloud. Huh. Or replace maps on the go.
I’m just too cheap to be online. But a wifi spot would help. We usually have some kind of Wifi in the gite or hotel. Interesting! Thanks for the tip!
Yours,
Bucky Edgett
Dear Geert,
Sorry for not including the JPEG of my Groups! That’s what comes of going too fast too late at night!
As for my knowledge, no, gosh, I’m just a user. (I seem to be listed as a Moderator. I assume because the Forum software thinks my number of posts makes me one? But I assure you I have no official standing here; other than perhaps as a big-mouth. ;^) )
in a post above, I included a link to a post where this topic was being discussed. In that thread, GeoMagik stated they “do not recommend having over 5,000 favorites…” And now GeoMagik has clarified for us, so I hope that helps.
@Terry Hunefeld
Dear Terry,
Thanks for your excellent work-around notes. Hope you see GeoMagik’s comment on saving as Pocket Earth Archive, not just GPX. And I hope you won’t mind a big-mouth comment from me!
I’d recommend not relying on Google to store the only copy(ies) of your data. Just my paranoia showing!
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A little comment on the topic in general…
Has anyone been investigating the new Google My Maps? (Formerly know as Maps Lite?) Have a look at https://support.google.com/mymaps/answer/3370982 . Hah!
“Map layers” (= PE Groups, kind of), 5 per map. PE, unlimited Groups?
“Features (points, lines, shapes),” 2,500 per map. PE, 5,000.
“Spreadsheet/CSV file import,” 500 rows. I imported a 7,000 row CSV into PE.
PE rocks, and it’s getting better all the time!
Yours,
BuckyAttachments:
You must be logged in to view attached files.Dear Geert,
A few reactions…
“I have however 17000 European campsites in one group. I can’t split this up.”
Please look at the attached JPEG. I know it’s not a great way to work, but don’t know of any map app that will allow me to get this close to really good! It’s just not possible to organize 17,000 Pins/POI Favorites in one group. Sorry!Have you read the Post about deleting this number of Pins takes about 4 hours? Not good either.
No, that I haven’t seen. I do know that with my set-up (iPad 2, iOS 7.1) I can delete Groups of about 3 or 4,000 Pins in 20-30 seconds. More or less. I would suspect that the time to delete a Group also depends on the total number of Pins/POI Favorites.
Yours,
Bucky edgett
Dear GeVaSta,
I feel kind of responsible for these threads about numbers of Pins/POI! Please see:
http://pocketearth.com/forums/topic/limit-to-number-of-pins/“When I browse the Pin’s, everything is accesible but is is very diffucult of course to find the wanted pin.”
I’m not sure exactly what you mean by “…browse the Pins…” but in general, the best thing to do in PE is set up Groups, and classify your Pins and/or POIs as belonging to Groups. There are several threads here about that, and I’d be happy to discuss it with you.
Yours,
Bucky Edgett
Thanks for the tip. I knew I was going overboard!
Hmmm, only sent one attachment. Just for fun:
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You must be logged in to view attached files.Kids: Don’t Try This At Home!
Well, I think I’ve answered my own question, at least generally. 24,049 Pins is over the limit. At least, if they are all Visible/not Hidden. At least, on my iPad 2. Perhaps a more modern device with better CPU and more memory would be OK with that number of Pins showing.
When I have all my silly obsessive prehistoric sites Pins showing, and try to View any Favorite, the map zooms to the view, my Favorites icons show, the base map is blanked out/doesn’t get rendered, and PE Pro 2.4 crashes.
I think PE works OK when I have my massive Pin Groups Hidden (leaving the smaller, more reasonably sized Groups visible) but then the Hidden Pins are still selectable, which is a bit confusing.
In the end, until I can afford a new iPad, I’ll just have to remove some of these huge multi-thousand-Pin Groups and re-import them when I actually need them for traveling. It’s been an interesting experiment! And, now I have the CSVs all cleaned up, available for when they are actually going to be relevant. Neato!
Yours,
Bucky Edgett
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You must be logged in to view attached files.Dear Terry,
OK, found the thread: http://pocketearth.com/forums/topic/v-1-7-21-will-not-import-an-archive/ .
Hope that sheds at least some light! Please note that in my case, I was beta-testing and that may have had some bearing.
But in any case, yes, when doing a lot of work in anything on the computer, periodic saving and backing-up is essential! If you’re having a lot of crashing problems, please post about them in the Bugs forum. I use PE for hours a day for days and weeks without any problems. You shouldn’t be having them!
Yours,
BuckyDear Terry,
With 1,500 or 2,000 Pins you can’t have hit the limit. I have probably 10,000 Pins in my PE Pro and no problems (so far!).
I have imported several huge CSVs of historic and prehistoric sites. It’s an obsession of mine. I asked a similar question a while ago and I think my problem turned out to be a corrupted Pin. I’ll try to find that thread and report back.
In the meantime, I also would like to ask the developers if there IS a Theoretical Pin Limit. I’ve got several more CSVs to import which would put my Pin count about 20,000. Or more! It would be just like my life to be the first person to actually hit the TPL.
Yours,
Bucky Edgett(iPad 2, 32gb, iOS 7.1; PE Pro 2.4)
Dear js,
Apologies if this note is badly written–typing on my iPad is not easy for me!
Yes, please, thank you for suggestions 3 & 4 particularly. I import GPX , maybe not a lot, but more than a few, and the graphs are pretty much always a mess. (you may remember helping me with suggestions on how to use a third party web site to fix them. I think that was you!)
Any help with getting the very helpful graphs into PE Pro in usable form would be greatly appreciated!
Yours,
Bucky Edgett
Dear nounours,
Congratulations! Looks like you’re another Problem Finder and Fixer.
Yes, I assume a semicolon-instead-of-a-comma would wreck a Comma Separated Values (CSV = .csv) file!
Having to escape punctuation in CSV files is kind of a pain, but it’s handy being able to write and Import simple files without the GPX formatting. Which I don’t understand at all!
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